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my parents watched it my mom's reaction

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is it the one where your hat's like kind

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of like this yeah it is

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oh so you don't like it either

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that was

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as you coming into this whole thing as a

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um

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how do you feel about it now

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um

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i think

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i'm yeah i mean that's real that's real

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like if you don't like my face doing

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that then you will not enjoy it a lot

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because it's mostly just me with my jaw

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on the floor

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what's up everybody i'm emmitt i'm joe

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and we're the ufo bros and we're here

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with matthew scott montgomery

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from unidentified with demi lovato now

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streaming on peacock i'm hitting the

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road with my best friend matthew and my

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sister dallas say hi to night vision

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high night vision

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let me tell you something

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obviously we're in this show

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but this was the most

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fun we've ever had

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with a group of people we didn't know

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what to expect

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and you were so much fun we had a blast

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what was it like for you

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just kind of going about your normal

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life and then somebody says hey you want

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to do a ufo show with demi like what was

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like

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well um

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first of all thank you so much for

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having me i'm also like gagging for your

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purple and green lights that are

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happening right now it's giving

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goosebumps which is like i'm obsessed

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with the goosebumps the tv series i

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didn't even realize that oh yeah

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that makes me so happy i will get to

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answer your question in a second i just

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wanted to point out how much i love

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those colors

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and it was so amazing that was our first

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night of shooting was with you guys that

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was our very first day of shooting um

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and i didn't know what to expect either

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well i mean if you know demi's my best

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friend and they've always been

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interested in ufos they've always been

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interested in like the sky and what's

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above and conspiracy theories and things

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like that so that's not a new part of

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our friendship that's not a new part of

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you know of demi at all so i think about

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uh demi texted me was like um we're

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doing a tv show for nbc where we're

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gonna go hunt aliens i was like okay

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did i think it was actually gonna happen

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i was like 50 50. i mean i'm demi and i

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met on the same television show where

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i'm an actor and a lot of times in the

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entertainment industry like stuff never

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happens so it's like you meet about

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stuff and you take meetings and then a

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acting work the joke is like don't tell

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anyone about it until your first

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residual check is cleared because you

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might be cut out of it you might all

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kinds of things might happen so i was

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like sure are we shooting a tv series

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where we're gonna go et hunting maybe

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you know what i mean but like of course

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um but we took a few meetings it

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happened very quickly so like demi

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ago and then we met like in april

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it too much

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and because demi's schedule is so all

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over the place and mine can be depending

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on what we're doing sometimes we don't

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all i knew for sure is that i was going

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to get an entire month together with

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them so that was like a real thrill

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so i was like sure let's do it let's

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let's hunt et's let's meet the ufo bros

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let's go all over the united states

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i'm so so down so i was excited i've

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never done um i'm used to working with a

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different so it was like uh you know

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you could call it a documentary series

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you go reality tv whatever you want to

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call it was brand new so i didn't really

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know what to expect but um having you

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guys there for her first night of

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shooting i was like wait no this is real

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this is fun whoa whoa whoa stuff's

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that is that's awesome that's fantastic

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i remember when we oh sorry go ahead

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oh good bro

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actually i was gonna have you go into

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the next question which is perfect oh

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thought that like making contact with

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you know contact and i quickly learned

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what actually making contact means and

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that's like you know seeing stuff in the

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sky that kind of you know shows up for

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you in a way i will say after i we fit

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springs with a boy and we were just like

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there was like stars in the sky and he

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show how was it working on it and i was

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telling him teaching him things about it

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stars in the sky like quite a bit we saw

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that stuff you know what i mean and like

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the crew tube believed in everything i

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everyone believed in all of it so i was

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distance from it and you're like i don't

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this we'd never seen a ufo we were just

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interesting and it wasn't until joe and

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consciousness or the energy or just

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being around the same people

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that had the same intention and hope of

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that blows them away even if it's just a

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satellite yeah and then you know

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that song is so dirty by the way can i

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no offense joe

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no offense

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yeah you're the odd man

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thousand children

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i would hate watch it i i'm just saying

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i would not watch that show i watched it

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enough i've seen it every season oh yes

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filming that specifically when we were

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the day and demi and i just the two of

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we're like oh my god where are the

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cameras when we need them

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shooting our big sky watch the next

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night in arizona and we were like oh god

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i hope that they show up tomorrow night

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show because right

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blinking and moving lights and they

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anything but it was like stuff that

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security guard was with us but like um

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think like nine o'clock filming and

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where demi's like do you want to go back

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next night luckily with the cameras it's

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tough because like

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um

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you know uh

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it's it's hard to capture that stuff

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it's like you kind of have to experience

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it for yourself but i thought the show

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and the production team did a really

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really good job of capturing exactly how

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it felt i was a little bit nervous

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about filming the show because i was

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afraid that like oh will it look hokey

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will it look like

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will it not look like what it felt like

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and i will say that it looked exactly

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how i felt when it when we were

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experiencing it i thought the cameras

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did a really good job of capturing it i

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wasn't sure like how night vision would

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work and things like that and then as

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recently as

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uh on on thanksgiving last week not to

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timestamp us thanksgiving whenever that

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was

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um

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demi and i were faced with a year and

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debbie was like i think i'm gonna do a

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skywatch tonight i was like absolutely

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it's awesome yeah i love how every time

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jimmy says you're like oh yes well also

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i think

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um uh joy is in limited supply as a

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human existence and so whatever brings

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you joy and gives you joy you should

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seek it out as much as possible and try

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to explain can i just pause that because

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i want to talk about for a second

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a little bit of this you know

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controversy or whatever surrounding uh

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demi being into ufos and

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extraterrestrials

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um

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i think it's fantastic that demi was

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able to participate in something that

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wasn't music and singing related i mean

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because you know what i mean like i

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would imagine that's demi's life

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and um

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demi was able to just hang out and kick

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it and

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skywatch

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yeah one of the most exciting things

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about the show and what was so appealing

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to it to me was

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to get to have fun and we had we had a

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lot of fun you know i think um

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it's it's hard for me to step outside of

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demi's in my friendship or or frankly

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like demi in general because there's

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someone who's so close to me and like i

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don't know how you feel about your best

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friend but i just assume you know you're

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very close to your best friend so it's

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like i can't

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i don't um

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i don't know how to step outside and

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look at it really but my i my

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understanding i think is that

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uh at least some people

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have equated some of demi's music or the

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documentaries that we've done

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as demi's dealt with a whole lot right

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the best students got the hardest

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lessons and demi's had a lot of tough

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lessons that they've had to learn

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and i think you know a lot of times we

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don't see demi having like fun and like

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that's who i know you know what i mean

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like that's who like we like giggle and

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screech and tickle and roll around and

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just have like the greatest time and so

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i knew that this was something that gave

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them such extreme joy and it was a

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really fun thing that they were

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genuinely curious about and i wanted to

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be there for that journey

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and the majority of social media has

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been kind um

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about unidentified um especially the

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fans and stuff like that and so i'm so

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thrilled that they got to see

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a little glimpse there's certain moments

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and i think i think you know

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um if you know me well enough just

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through social media you can know when

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we're actually having a whole lot of fun

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and there's a lot of moments in i think

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every episode where we're like

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legitimately having a good time cameras

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are not you know what i'm saying

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you know um

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uh andrew knock explained it as

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coachella on the road

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you know

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it like to hang out with demi oh yeah

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i would say like uh we had some really

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good like

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clean family fun on on

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in unidentified for sure

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i know that when we showed up and met

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you all

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the inner like immediately

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i was like this is gonna be a blast

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you know

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um

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so uh

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ross we're gonna ask you just a few

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questions about some things that's been

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going around on social media

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and

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i think you can clear these up pretty

401
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easily right joe

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okay

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so

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i want to hear the the one well it's

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been going around is uh demi singing to

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a ghost

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yes

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moment

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um

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i love you too so much and no offense

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but i think my favorite experience with

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unidentified was that moment um because

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i identify i identify as a ghost person

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now here's the thing here's the twist

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though i i went into as a skeptic for

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all kinds of paranormal phenomena i love

417
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scary stuff you can't really i'm kind of

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decorative for christmas right now you

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can tell watching your social media i

420
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could tell you you're always doing some

421
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kind of spooky scary thing yeah so my

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halloweeny i love scary stuff i love

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scary movies demi and i've been ghost

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hunting before that's one of the main

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things we have in common is we love

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scary stuff so that moment there it's in

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the second episode i think when we were

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in this haunted brothel in vulture city

429
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arizona

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um and we

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you know at the time demi was

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identifying as still identifying as

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female so

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um just to preface some of the story but

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um what we have been told

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um

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uh when we got there was that this

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certain brothel where these three sex

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workers

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who had passed away there haunted this

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brothel right and um

442
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sexy ghosts what's that are they sexy

443
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ghosts i certainly thought so

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um

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and uh there it was carmen

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lily and i forget the third one no

447
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offense to to her

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um uh it's in the episode um but we we

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they told us that like they didn't want

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men in there the ghosts did not feel

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comfortable with men there and so they

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wanted demi to communicate with

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um the spirits that were in there and

454
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you guys very quickly after getting in

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there

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we

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ghost and

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we had these like boxes that were set up

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kind of all over

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um that i held and saw and production

461
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wasn't pulling any kind of tricks you

462
00:16:01,910 --> 00:16:00,320
know there wasn't a lot of behind the

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scenes really like you kind of saw

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everything we're traveling together so

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we all like

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saw everything you know i mean like

467
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we're all very close together like

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andrew and the crew so it wasn't like

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there was some big production where they

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were faking stuff and there was a right

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wizard of oz curtain or something or

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anything

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um and so pretty soon these these boxes

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that we had set up in there

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were lighting up when demi was asking

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yes or no questions and through the yes

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or no questions we very quickly found

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out that this was carmen and demi like

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intuitively picked up the fact that

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carmen had trauma with

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men and then demi shared that they had

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trauma as well and then they picked up

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on the fact that carmen was a musician

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maybe even a singer

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and like they just like bonded honestly

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i was like shipping the two of them like

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i want like carmen and demi to get

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together you know what i mean like

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yeah

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you gotta go

491
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you're dating demi so it's like carmen

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has my stamp of approval i mean i guess

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she's a little old for demi but she's

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also dead so um but we love her um so

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like there was a part where we me and um

496
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one of the ghost hunters were in this

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other room and

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uh they

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demi was asking if it was okay if asking

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karma if it was okay if if me and this

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other guy came into the room and carmen

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was saying no

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and this was not a produced moment i

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just thought of this in the moment

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because i was like oh they're both

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musicians i was like demi maybe you can

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sing carmen a song

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as an offering to like you know

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allow us to enter because when we got to

510
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vulture city there's a huge deal about

511
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um the pure intentions coming in and we

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we gave offerings me dallas and demi

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when we got there off camera and we're

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meeting with the people there and the

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indigenous people there and we did like

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a production ceremony and there was a

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lot of stuff about

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um being like uh i don't mean to use

519
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this word a whole lot today but pure

520
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like how we're coming in

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so like uh i was like okay maybe this is

522
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we can do an offering here because you

523
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know that's what we've been doing the

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the night before and all day really

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and you know

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demi saying skyscraper and it was

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phenomenal of course and and then carmen

528
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and let us in and then i genuinely felt

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a friendly essence of this spirit that

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we were communicating with and

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that was like so i mean like

532
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i had an incredible experience with with

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you two and in arizona as well because

534
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the stuff in the in in the sky but there

535
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was something about being in like

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frankly a haunted brothel where it felt

537
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like it was right there you know what i

538
00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:25,120
mean i get

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like you

540
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i always use the word energy but i don't

541
00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:30,080
really know how to describe it but

542
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um

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like you know

544
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you're right with sky watching uh it's

545
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it's definitely different than being

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like in the space that [\h__\h] went down

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and you know you got carmen the ghost i

548
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wanted you to talk about that because

549
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people are you know saying on social

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media that demi's crazy demi's gone

551
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whatever that they think it is and i'm

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like people we sing

553
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we sing to jesus all the time we seem to

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sound like

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00:19:02,390 --> 00:19:00,400
who like i mean

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00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:02,400
people saying funerals for dead people

557
00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:04,960
who cares you know and frankly it's

558
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because demi did it better than

559
00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:07,679
everybody else what do you say to those

560
00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:08,960
people that

561
00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:10,720
say demi's has gone off the deep end for

562
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:12,640
singing to a ghost

563
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:14,640
well i guess the algorithm was kind

564
00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:17,280
enough to me that i didn't see much of

565
00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:18,160
that

566
00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:19,039
um

567
00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:21,440
but i would say like i guess from a

568
00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:23,520
purely ego driven selfish place i would

569
00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:24,960
be like well that would make me crazy

570
00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:26,799
too i guess because

571
00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:28,960
you know if demi's crazy then i'm crazy

572
00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:30,400
and then so was everyone there you know

573
00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:33,039
what i mean it was it was my idea for

574
00:19:38,390 --> 00:19:36,240
for demi to sing so if anything i'm the

575
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:38,400
crazy one i guess you know

576
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:39,600
no one makes demi do anything that they

577
00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:41,440
don't want to do but that that was the

578
00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:43,840
idea and also i think

579
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:46,480
um i think kindness is free

580
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:48,559
and that um

581
00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:50,480
you know whether

582
00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:53,440
whether you believe in something or not

583
00:19:58,070 --> 00:19:55,919
um and frankly i don't believe in a lot

584
00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:58,080
of the the stuff that that that the crew

585
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,720
believed or you know going into it and

586
00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:02,640
still i'm unsure about all of it but i

587
00:20:07,669 --> 00:20:05,919
believe in my friends and i believe in

588
00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:07,679
whatever makes you happy and i saw that

589
00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:10,400
this was you know this is such a huge

590
00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:11,840
part of

591
00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:13,919
uh you just think of of your best friend

592
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:15,440
having a hobby that you that they're

593
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:16,799
really really interested in and you want

594
00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:18,640
to share that with them and so a lot of

595
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:21,360
it was demi teaching me that hobby and i

596
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:22,799
think a lot of it

597
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:24,480
i'm inferring because i i didn't see

598
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:25,520
exactly what you're talking about but

599
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:27,039
i'm inferring that these are probably

600
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:29,280
people who didn't watch the show or

601
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:30,960
don't know very much about it i think if

602
00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:33,520
you watch the show it's just like so

603
00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:35,919
um it's pretty light-hearted and fun and

604
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:38,480
it comes from a genuine place of

605
00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:42,480
curiosity and um

606
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:44,559
what's up spiritual

607
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:47,120
yeah and i think um

608
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:48,720
you know if there's sound bites or when

609
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:51,039
you read something um you know

610
00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:52,720
especially on twitter it can be very

611
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:55,600
carefully chosen or worded to only write

612
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:57,280
this kind of idea completely out of

613
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:58,640
context

614
00:21:01,510 --> 00:21:00,320
and i think

615
00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:01,520
um

616
00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:03,760
you know when i think of unidentified i

617
00:21:07,590 --> 00:21:05,679
think of it as a very fun

618
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:07,600
light-hearted experience now this is

619
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:09,679
like stuff beyond the galaxy and we

620
00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:10,799
interviewed a lot of people who dealt

621
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:12,960
with some very very heavy things

622
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:16,880
but the energy of saying anyone who is

623
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,360
involved in it is crazy doesn't match

624
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:21,280
the energy that i felt while i was

625
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:23,039
participating in it because it seemed

626
00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:26,480
like such a curious forward-thinking

627
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,400
fun exploratory

628
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,320
activity or exercise does that make

629
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:32,559
sense well you went into it learning

630
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,400
about it which

631
00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:36,480
is so great because when you don't

632
00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:38,960
really know what you don't know right

633
00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:41,039
you experience new things and you're not

634
00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:43,360
biased towards it and

635
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:45,039
i always tell people if you're going to

636
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:46,799
complain and [\h__\h]

637
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:51,600
go do it yourself go do it yourself

638
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:53,200
grab your friends

639
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:54,080
yeah

640
00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:56,640
call up the ufo pros or whatever we'll

641
00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:58,960
go out and we will we'll do some stuff

642
00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:00,240
that's

643
00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:02,240
gonna you know bring the hair up on the

644
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:04,240
back of your neck it's also

645
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,440
it's also entertainment it's a it's a

646
00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:09,360
series of fun on peacock you know what i

647
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:12,000
mean like it's it's it's not it's a

648
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,360
great time and it covers all uh aspects

649
00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:17,360
of the phenomena yeah i think which is

650
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:19,360
great yeah a lot of people that watched

651
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:20,720
of course were

652
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:23,360
fans of demi's and had fun

653
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,120
following the adventure and then i think

654
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:27,200
another chunk of fans who watched it

655
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:28,880
were um

656
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:30,960
encounter survivors or had experienced

657
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:33,600
something and were were you know big e.t

658
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:35,679
and ufo um

659
00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:36,799
uh

660
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:38,159
fanatics is the wrong word i think but

661
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:40,159
like fans of of you know the genre of

662
00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:41,919
television and i think a lot of people

663
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:44,000
felt validated by the show

664
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:46,080
and certain things and

665
00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:47,440
you know i think that's a lot of reason

666
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:49,840
why i was there was because you know i

667
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:51,120
think you kind of got to follow it

668
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:52,880
through my experience because i kind of

669
00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:54,480
came into it like

670
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:55,919
you know i don't know what all this

671
00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:58,240
stuff's about okay kind of thing

672
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,080
but it wasn't like

673
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:02,559
skeptics also feel skeptic's like

674
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:03,919
like it feels like that it's like prove

675
00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:06,080
to me it's real this is fair exactly

676
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:08,559
well and it's also it's fake

677
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:10,960
show me the evidence like yeah you go

678
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:12,880
you get the evidence and bring it to me

679
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,159
yeah

680
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,480
awesome i i mean you the three of us

681
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:17,760
don't know each other super well but i

682
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:20,559
hope you gather from me enough that like

683
00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:22,000
what you see is what you get with me

684
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:23,200
pretty much like usually when people

685
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:24,559
meet me like you're exactly the same as

686
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:25,919
you're on social media i'm like because

687
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:26,720
like

688
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,600
i just

689
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:29,919
like how i am do you know what i mean so

690
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:30,640
like

691
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:31,760
um

692
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:34,640
that you can just i i'm a pretty genuine

693
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:36,640
person who you know has a speed on the

694
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:38,720
ground but also loves a lot and is very

695
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:40,559
curious and

696
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,240
um was really thrilled to be part of

697
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,120
this experience and you know

698
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:47,520
those people who don't and didn't enjoy

699
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,720
it i guess or were saying people are

700
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:50,640
crazy then don't watch it

701
00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:51,919
yeah

702
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:54,799
i want to move on to one other sort of

703
00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:58,080
social media splash okay that was made

704
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,159
demi's saying that

705
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:02,880
we should not use the word alien

706
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,600
um and that made i don't know if you saw

707
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,159
that that made a huge splash

708
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:10,320
within the ufo community as well which

709
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:12,960
you know we're a part of

710
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:15,840
i think um one thing that i learned uh

711
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,600
through this experience or or learned

712
00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:19,520
even more was that i think language is

713
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:21,279
really important i mean we're kind of in

714
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,559
this like

715
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:24,159
structure i could get into a whole

716
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:25,840
speech about institutionalized

717
00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:28,320
heteronormativity but like labels are

718
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:30,840
very very important for people like um

719
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:33,679
especially um heteronormative culture

720
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:35,520
needs like a label for everything so

721
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:36,960
they can understand how everything kind

722
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:39,120
of fits in there and at the same time i

723
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:41,679
do think the words that we use are

724
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:44,400
really important because of

725
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,159
pop culture negative connotations that

726
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:48,159
certain things have there's reasons why

727
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,679
we don't like being called certain names

728
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:51,200
or we're offended by stuff because of

729
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:52,799
the weight that those

730
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:56,159
words have and i think if you saw any

731
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:57,039
like

732
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:58,480
interview and i did a lot of press with

733
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,960
demi where that would come up

734
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,640
you know saying instead of saying aliens

735
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,559
saying e.t if you watch any of that

736
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,480
stuff we're kind of we're not like

737
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:08,080
la we're not laughing but there's like a

738
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,960
really positive kind of like cute giggly

739
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:12,799
energy behind it where it's like you

740
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:13,760
know maybe we shouldn't be using that

741
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,960
word right now maybe we should think

742
00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:16,320
about something else like that was like

743
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:18,240
very the energy of it and i think it's

744
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:20,240
because and this is something i learned

745
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:24,640
a whole lot that the term alien me is a

746
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:27,360
skeptic um you know

747
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,480
coming in

748
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,640
when i think of alien i think of

749
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:32,640
independence day of some like monsters

750
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,159
they're going to come attack and kill us

751
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:36,159
and abduct us you know i also think

752
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:38,080
there's really negative connotations for

753
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,240
illegal alien as well you know what i

754
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:42,480
mean that's for another podcast that i

755
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:44,960
could talk about that so i think like we

756
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,080
as a

757
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,240
you know culture i think specifically

758
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:50,880
like an american culture probably the

759
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,360
word alien has a really negative

760
00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:55,679
connotation to it baggage i think

761
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,039
baggage yes very much very very

762
00:26:02,070 --> 00:25:59,200
significant that's like the word like

763
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:02,080
like ufo comes with a whole [\h__\h] ton of

764
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:03,679
baggage which is why they changed the

765
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,120
term to uap

766
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:07,039
yes and i think so why can't we use

767
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:09,039
different words you know

768
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:10,720
it's been done for years

769
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:13,120
yeah and a lot of like coming in

770
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:14,559
was

771
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:18,159
this is not something to be scared of

772
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:19,760
you like because of movies and

773
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:22,080
television whatever it is you know this

774
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:24,559
is not some this is not a scary thing

775
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,840
the majority of the people that we

776
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:26,880
talked to

777
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,360
and it was all a positive thing and

778
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:32,400
anything i've only ever heard from demi

779
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,159
is that it's something that gives them

780
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,240
joy and curiosity

781
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,559
and it seems like a really like fun

782
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,320
place for them to live to try to

783
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:42,960
discover this stuff and so this is a

784
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:45,360
unidentified as fun it was really fun to

785
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:46,960
look up in the sky and see stuff and

786
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:49,440
learn things like that and i think the

787
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:52,240
idea behind the language between alien

788
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:53,520
e.t was

789
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,880
e.t

790
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:56,640
i mean pop culture we have connotations

791
00:27:01,590 --> 00:26:59,760
of a sweet alien with reese's pieces

792
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,600
touching fingers

793
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:03,279
so it's like if you leave like language

794
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:04,640
is important you know what i mean so

795
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:07,279
it's like how we describe things informs

796
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:08,960
how we feel about it

797
00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:10,640
should it be that way probably not but

798
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:12,320
unfortunately that's the way that it is

799
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:14,400
so i think it was just like a fun thing

800
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:17,200
to bring up in press and conversations

801
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:19,520
to switch the narrative from

802
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,520
because a lot of the questions we got on

803
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,080
doing press were like oh no aliens

804
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:26,399
coming to abduct you aliens to attack

805
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:29,279
you how could you probe you green aliens

806
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:31,279
like that's a lot of what we heard and

807
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:32,399
so i think the message that we were

808
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,000
trying to portray with the show is like

809
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,320
this is a fun experiment where we want

810
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:38,000
to learn more about what's in the sky

811
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,159
and the beautiful universe that god has

812
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,640
created so like i think that that's

813
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,799
where the idea of et versus alien came

814
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:46,640
in so if you i mean like if you watch

815
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:48,640
any clip of demi talking about it that's

816
00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:50,399
the energy that's coming from it or any

817
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:52,399
of us really so it's

818
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:55,039
that big smile and that big boisterous

819
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:58,320
laugh yeah yeah beautiful laugh i love

820
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:00,720
that laugh i was like i'm stealing best

821
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,520
sounding demi had a smile from ear to

822
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,600
ear the whole time buy me a more

823
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:07,679
beautiful smile you won't

824
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:09,120
what's that i said find me a more

825
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,399
beautiful smile you won't nope

826
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:14,240
earlier you were talking about talking

827
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,520
to your friends

828
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:17,919
about the phenomena how do younger

829
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:20,960
people talk to other younger people

830
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,039
about the ufo phenomena

831
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:25,120
what are some tips like how do you bring

832
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:27,039
it up to your friends

833
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,919
um

834
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:29,600
i think

835
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:31,200
it's a lot in line of what we were just

836
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,799
talking about with like

837
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:34,399
i hate to harp on it or keep bringing up

838
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,080
like the alien versus et thing like

839
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:38,399
learning words like uap the first thing

840
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:40,159
i lead with usually when i was talking

841
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:41,760
to people about the show who are

842
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:43,760
skeptics was

843
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,120
saying what ufo stands for and saying

844
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,679
literally what does that mean and kind

845
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,760
of like opening the door to say it's

846
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:53,520
okay to say

847
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,600
i'm undecided about this stuff and to

848
00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:57,360
acknowledge that there's something out

849
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,679
there and it's like a fun thing to try

850
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:01,679
to figure it out it's also like a fun

851
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:03,440
thing to give your theories back and

852
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:06,159
forth you know what i mean like um i

853
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:07,919
guess something out there has to be the

854
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:09,279
truth but we

855
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:12,159
we most likely will never know so it's a

856
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:14,720
i think it's a fun thing to bond over

857
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:16,799
and to explore

858
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:19,039
and watch documentaries about it and

859
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:21,600
have conversations about it or go into

860
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,520
the middle of a desert and just look in

861
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:25,679
the sky and see what you see at the very

862
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:29,360
least the sky is gorgeous so

863
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:30,720
yes

864
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:32,240
you get dizzy

865
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:33,360
what's up

866
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:35,279
we were out in roswell at the crash site

867
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:36,559
we got to go some time would you want to

868
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:38,000
go yes

869
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:41,200
what about area 31 yeah

870
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,880
well let's go yeah i can't believe we

871
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:44,640
didn't go for season one to be honest

872
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,159
because that seems like

873
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:48,240
that seems like a no-brainer but maybe

874
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:49,360
they wanted to start us off small

875
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:50,720
because those seems like those seem like

876
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:53,120
the the meccas joe and i we spent the

877
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:54,960
night at one of the roswell crash sites

878
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:57,760
and looking up in the sky it was just

879
00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:59,760
dizzying yeah

880
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,000
literally because we're always here or

881
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:05,200
whatever yeah yeah i like that advice

882
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,360
talk about the stupid acronyms watch

883
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:09,600
stuff together make it a social event

884
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:10,559
yeah

885
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:12,080
that's what this should be about it's

886
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:13,360
another way to connect with your friends

887
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:15,120
and family get out there explore wonder

888
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:16,960
what the hell is out there

889
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:18,960
what's really in the skies it's a good

890
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,120
way to like step outside of yourself you

891
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:23,679
know as a you know absolutely i'm a

892
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:25,520
millennial and so we grew up with like

893
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:27,520
hustle culture you know what i mean so

894
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:29,679
it's like and as an actor too like a

895
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,360
starving artist struggling actor trying

896
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,440
to make your dreams come true it's

897
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:35,200
really easy to

898
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,000
get lost in instagram and earth and

899
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:40,320
looking down and i think when we look up

900
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:42,159
and look out we realize how small that

901
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,399
we are and how much beauty there is out

902
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,320
there sometimes it's like go for a walk

903
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,960
go outside read a book look at the sky

904
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:50,720
you know what i mean there's something

905
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:51,520
right

906
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:52,399
that's

907
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:54,080
you know it's equal parts it's

908
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,000
mystifying for sure staring at the sky

909
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:58,480
but it's also like puts in perspective

910
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:00,480
like that instagram post doesn't really

911
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,480
matter there's comments up there you

912
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,960
know what i mean

913
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:07,039
i think it's good to take some time to

914
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,720
go on a road trip with your friends like

915
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,480
demi and i did and like you know go

916
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:12,399
stare at the sky for a while like at

917
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:15,039
least to just get out of get out of this

918
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,919
in order

919
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:17,600
that's a positive thing

920
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:19,519
that was [\h__\h] perfect

921
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:22,159
that was [\h__\h] crazy like being graded

922
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:24,799
on these answers emmett you got the part

923
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:25,760
sweetie

924
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:27,120
so what's new what are you guys what are

925
00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:28,960
you guys up to right now in your lives

926
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:31,519
how are things going

927
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:33,760
we just got done filming

928
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:36,720
in roswell for a project coming out

929
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,600
yeah we're in line for some other shows

930
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:41,519
and things like but yeah we just bought

931
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:44,640
like some new equipment that like

932
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:46,720
you know this we bought like a kick-ass

933
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:48,000
skycam

934
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:49,120
it's the same kind of thing that you

935
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,960
look on the ipad so we can go out there

936
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:52,480
and really like record it and do stuff

937
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:53,600
yeah

938
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:55,919
so do you guys you guys get together and

939
00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:57,440
organize trips so you spend some time

940
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,919
together or dude yeah

941
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:01,919
yeah like i'll usually go see joe

942
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:04,640
and then we'll go skywatch film some

943
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:06,240
stuff look around because that's like

944
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,960
bigfoot country too so yeah oregon

945
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,480
before

946
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,000
oh is

947
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:15,120
there some sights up here i'm sure

948
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:16,799
it's that's why i loved it that's why i

949
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:19,440
moved here really okay was it there's

950
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:20,640
just the pure beauty that brought you

951
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:21,760
there

952
00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:24,080
yeah being in you know sacramento for

953
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:27,919
you know 38 years or 36 years it uh um

954
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:30,399
the cement city kind of got to us and

955
00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:32,480
we came out here and it once we saw the

956
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:34,159
beauty of it like when it snows here

957
00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:37,120
it's amazing oh fun

958
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:39,279
there's like just enough snow right oh

959
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:40,559
yeah just enough

960
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:41,679
yeah you're not like digging out your

961
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:43,039
door nope

962
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:44,080
i don't want to take too much of your

963
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:45,519
time is there anything

964
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:48,399
matthew that you want to add or anything

965
00:32:52,149 --> 00:32:49,760
at all that you think that we should

966
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:52,159
know about to anybody who's listening or

967
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:53,840
watching this podcast who watched

968
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:56,640
identified and enjoyed it i'm so

969
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:58,960
thankful that you watched and enjoyed

970
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,440
our journey we had a lot of fun

971
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:03,440
making it and i hope it opened up some

972
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,320
conversations with you or whoever

973
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,640
is your family or chosen family to talk

974
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:10,559
about those things um if you're

975
00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:11,840
listening to this and you haven't

976
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:15,039
watched the series or are curious about

977
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:16,080
it

978
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:21,840
access to peacock or can't get that a

979
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:22,960
lot of

980
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,360
clips are on from youtube and are

981
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:27,360
frankly on my social media my instagram

982
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:29,200
is matthew underscore scott underscore

983
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:32,080
montgomery and a lot of the carmen ghost

984
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,559
stuff i was speaking of is actually

985
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:36,960
um on there also you two are on there as

986
00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:39,519
well i think in the in a couple posts

987
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:40,640
that i made

988
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:43,200
um and so i encourage you if you're

989
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:45,519
curious to check those out and

990
00:33:48,789 --> 00:33:46,960
as i was talking before and i was like

991
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:48,799
i'm kind of like a spooky person like a

992
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:50,799
spooky little baby who lives like creepy

993
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:53,360
stuff um one of the most exciting things

994
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:55,679
that i've been working on post um

995
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:58,559
unidentified is i wrote a horror movie

996
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:01,360
um called howdy neighbor that's a queer

997
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,880
stalker movie

998
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:04,399
um and i've always wanted to be in a

999
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:05,519
horror movie and it's like kind of my

1000
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:08,159
dream and so i wrote one for myself and

1001
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:10,480
one of my co-stars from sunny with a

1002
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:12,720
chance and so random who was on the show

1003
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,079
with demi and i

1004
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:16,079
her name is allison it was allison

1005
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,599
ashley arms she's been married since

1006
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,520
she's allison snyder now she will be

1007
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:21,200
directing it and we are going to be

1008
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:24,000
shooting that in early 2022

1009
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:27,679
and i'm very excited about shooting that

1010
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,599
film and that's kind of a scream come

1011
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,200
true i don't know exactly when it will

1012
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,599
be out but you can check my social media

1013
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,599
for updates on that and we have an

1014
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:37,280
announced official cast but if you were

1015
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,879
a fan of mine from disney channel and

1016
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:40,320
the nickelodeon stuff i used to do i

1017
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,679
think you'll be pleased with some of the

1018
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:43,200
possibly familiar faces you'll see in

1019
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:44,879
the cast

1020
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:46,320
that's awesome

1021
00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:48,960
i like what what'd you say uh uh oh crap

1022
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:52,159
you said it and i laughed what was it uh

1023
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:54,079
something of your screams that was funny

1024
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:56,720
oh my screams come true screenshot today

1025
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:57,920
that's so cool

1026
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:59,520
i love that

1027
00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:00,560
yes

1028
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:02,240
thank you for coming on the show there

1029
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:03,760
matthew i hope you come back again

1030
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:05,280
sometimes i can't wait to hear some more

1031
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,400
good stuff

1032
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:08,000
yeah you guys are such a total blast it

1033
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:09,680
sorry took me so long to get on here but

1034
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:11,359
um everything happens for a reason in

1035
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:13,680
the universe and so i'm glad it all

1036
00:35:19,490 --> 00:35:15,760
lined up now i adore you both and thank